‘I love Rose and Doctor/Rose, I don’l like Martha. I am not classic!who ignorant, stupid, immature, racist and antifeminist. I’m sick of constant “if you don’t like Martha you are “insert any of above” posts. That silliness makes me hate her even more.’
Okay, maybe not hate, but I must admit - I am far more averse to this character because of fandom.
Why all the Martha hate, though, really? It always seems as though people who dislike her have to mention Rose in the same breath, and the only conclusion I can come up with is that people don’t like Martha because she has the misfortune of having to follow up Rose and not be Rose (which, frankly, I think is half of the point; Martha has to compete against the ghost of Rose and, when she realizes she can’t, she makes the choice to move on from a situation that doesn’t make her feel good anymore; that’s a tough decision that deserves props and sympathy, because we’ve all been in her shoes, haven’t we?).
I wish people would take the time to explain it and make it an intelligent debate instead of just say “I hate _________.” That’s MY Whovian confession.
Uhm… Because she is just boring for some people? Not only because “she was just after Rose” and “she was not Rose”, but comparing to rest of nuWho companions. For me she is only a kind of filler between Rose and Donna and none of these screeds about how ‘badass’ she is can convince me otherwise.
“Intelligent debate”? Real life is for intelligent debates. Fandom is for love, hate and throwing a popcorn. Really, when such things are going in direction of serious discussions, it only makes everything a lot worse.
Fandom is what you want it to be, really; that’s the point. If you want to throw shoes at your TV and scream incoherently, you can do that. If you want to elevate the level of discourse, you can do that too. But you have to go into it knowing that if you throw shoes and scream incoherently and make blanket statements expressing your feelings, other people are going to throw shoes and scream incoherently and make around blanket statements expressing their feelings right back at you. Not rolling my eyes at fandom in any way because I’m a part of it too, but it IS like being back in elementary school in a lot of ways. The Martha hate is simply a very prime example of that dynamic; people rarely bother to explain their side, so it devolves into the hurling of insults, which ultimately only serves to make people angry.
And for the record, you are the FIRST person in four years I’ve heard explain that you dislike Martha because you find her boring in the context of other companions, and that is an opinion that I can understand and respect. While I and others may disagree with it, nobody now has to fill in the blanks and assume that you fit that general pool of less complimentary adjectives. That’s really all it takes to get out of the quagmire of inane insult-hurling in fandom. That’s all I’m trying to say.